Dont worry about the Muslims uniting in Northern India;
it will happen, Insha Allah!
10.12.2009 Rajya Sabha (Discussion on Liberhan Report)
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE
Madam, I thank you for having given me seven minutes. After 17 years and 48 extensions, at last, the Liberhan has pinpointed who are all responsible intellectually,ideologically and physically for the Babri Masjid demolition. We see demolition of Babri Masjid not as a demolition of a Masjid, just a structure, but we see it as a challenge to the honourable existence of the Muslims in secular India. The Indian Union Muslim League was founded by our former Constituent Assembly Member and former Parliament Member of Lok Sabha, Mohd. Ismail Saheb, who has already declared that the Muslim League is for the honourable existence of the Muslims. There are about 1500 lakhs or 1800 lakhs of Muslims in this country. I am sure that any Bajrang Dal or any Sangh Parivar cannot eradicate them from this soil. That is for sure. Nobody can do this except God. But the destruction happened to show that the Muslims
should behave properly, according to the diktats of the Sangh Parivaar.
That was the darkest day in the history of secular India. Everybody condemned; the Parliament condemned, and, everybody, irrespective of any party, even BJP and all other condemned that action. But now after 17 years, from the body language of some of our friends like Mr. Pany and others, it seems that they have done some great thing by demolishing this structure, this Masjid.
Sir, 17 years back, at that point of time, everybody condemned it and it was said that it was a spontaneous reaction from the karsevaks; it was not a deliberate or a pre-planned attack or plan of karsevaks. That was the saying earlier. But now suddenly everything changed and everybody looks very happy, as their body language shows. It seems that they had done some great thing. It looked as if they had done something great. But for us, the Indian Muslims, especially, for all those who are peace-loving people and especially, for those who are from Kerala just like me -- the only State where Muslims live across the State with honour -- it was the darkest day.
I can see, my friends from North India who are shouting now -- and they are very much interested in Urdu Shers -- are very happy; from morning till evening they would read shers and they are very happy either with Mulyam Singh or with Amar Singh, etc. They are very happy just like during the Mughal Times, in the evenings, people used to enjoy their shers and had no problems. But we, from Kerala, are working for the development of Muslims, for the minority communities by giving them education, by bringing them into the mainstream of politics and by providing them whatever they need, not only roads and houses. We give education to girls, especially, Muslim girls. That is how Kerala is different. That is how the Kerala community is different. That is why the Kerala Muslims are revered all over the country, not only in India, but in the outside world also.
So, I request my Muslim brothers in North India to see who is the real enemy, whether it is the Congress Party or whether it is the Amar Singh's Party or it is the BJP, etc. If they attain this wisdom, then only they will be able to know what is happening in India today or what can happen tomorrow. At present, we are relying on Amar Singh. There is no other way because they are not united. They have to go to Lalu Prasad Yadav. Sometimes, they were with Congress. But for the last 17 or 18 years, they are not with Congress. But now after 17 years, they have come to know what is happening, who are the real enemies or who are the real friends. The last verdict has clearly shown that under the
leadership of Sonia Gandhi, the Indian National Congress is providing better governance, which was not given even by late Shri Narasimha Raoji at that point of time. I am not arguing for Mr. Narashima Rao who was a mute spectator at the time of destruction. So, my sincere prayer to our Muslim friends in North India is to have their own ideology, to have some sort of organisation so that they can be ...
BALBIR PUNJ: Sir, I have a point of order.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARAJAN): Yes.
BALBIR PUNJ: Madam, the hon. Member is repeatedly referring to Muslim leaders, Muslim community, making appeal on the basis of religion, asking people to unite in the name of religion, look for solutions on the basis of religion. Is it fair? ...(Interruptions)... Should it happen?
...(Interruptions)...
TIRUCHI SIVA: What is the point of order?
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: There is no point of order. ...(Interruptions)...
BALBIR PUNJ: If somebody were to speak ...(Interruptions)... this is how the Hindus of UP should unite; how the Hindus of Karnataka should unite ... ...(Interruptions)...
B.K. HARIPRASAD: He is talking of their welfare.
...(Interruptions)...
BALBIR PUNJ: If it is the welfare, can you look at the welfare ...
...(Interruptions)...
RUDRA NARAYAN PANY: Mr. Hariprasad, it is a good thing that he is talking about the welfare ... ...(Interruptions)...
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARAJAN): Mr. Punj,
kindly state the rule under which you are raising the point of order.
...(Interruptions)... No; I want to know the rule. ...(Interruptions)...
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVE: All right. I will not repeat that.
(Interruptions)
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Punj, I would like to know under what rule?
(Interruptions) Please, do not interrupt.
BALBIR PUNJ: Asking the citizens of this country...(Interruptions)...
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please, do not interrupt the Chair. (Interruptions)
Kindly state the rule under which you are raising the Point of Order.
BALBIR PUNJ: It is not only against the rules of the House, but also against the basic law of the country. (Interruptions)
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Which rule...(Interruptions)..
BALBIR PUNJ: You cannot appeal to the citizens on the basis of religion...(Interruptions)..
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: I am sorry, there is no Point of Order. Mr. Wahab, please continue and finish your speech.
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE: Do not worry about the Muslims uniting in Northern India; it will happen, Insha Allah!
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARAJAN): Mr.
Wahab, please conclude.
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE: Okay, Madam, I shall now come to the Liberhan Commission Report.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, no; you have to conclude now. You should have come to the Liberhan Commission Report seven minutes ago!
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE: It is the duty of the Central Government to compensate the 3000 displaced, killed and affected Muslims and others in the riots following the Ayodhya incident. I would request the Government of India to give full compensation, in whichever way needed. 'Justice delayed is justice denied'. This Report came after 17 years. We do not know how many years Government of India would
take to give compensation to the victims and take remedial measures. I hope, post Ayodhya, in Kerala no single man, whether Muslim or non- Muslim died or was injured because of the Ayodhya incident. It happened with so many people, especially in Northern India, at Bombay and other places.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Please conclude. Your time is over.
ABDUL WAHAB PEEVEE: Okay, Madam. Thank you.
(Ends)
AMAR SINGH: Madam, I would like to again seek
some...(Interruptions)...
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, no, Amar Singhji. There is no clarification. You cannot ask after every statement. (Interruptions)
AMAR SINGH: Madam, it is my right. (Interruptions)
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARAJAN): No, it is not your right.
AMAR SINGH: Madam, somebody is making
allegations...(Interruptions)..
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: It is not your right. He has not said anything about you.
AMAR SINGH: He has said.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: No, Amar Singhji.
AMAR SINGH: He has mentioned my name thrice. You may check it in the record.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: But after every speech, should every Congress person give a clarification? It is not possible.
AMAR SINGH: Madam, by now I would have completed. Mr. Wahab, don't have anything personal against the Congress.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: But you have to address the Chair!
AMAR SINGH: Sorry. Madam, I don't have anything personal against Mr. Wahab's statement of uniting Muslims in North India. I hold the Congress Party in the highest esteem.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: Mr. Amar Singh, only your clarification.
AMAR SINGH: Their Party should have been grateful to us for bailing them out in their hour of crisis.
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN: This is not a clarification, Mr. Amar Singh. This is not a clarification.
AMAR SINGH: He should not have alleged such things. Why is he taking it as personal? (Interruptions)
THE VICE-CHAIRMAN (SHRIMATI JAYANTHI NATARAJAN): Mr. Rajeev
Shukla. (Interruptions) No, I am not allowing. (Interruptions) Please, Mr. Amar Singh, this is not a clarification. (Interruptions)
AMAR SINGH: How can he make such allegations against the Party? (Interruptions) |